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Coverticus · May 26, 2010, 10:12 PM // 22:12

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Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov

Ugh. People are starting to fear bans over multi-launch. or running more than one client on one machine. So will that also come the ban hammer to come down?

Scarlett, I use and have had BOTH accounts banned for it, it seems. Trying to get a stance too via Support. Doesn't look good though.

Joe Fierce · May 26, 2010, 10:13 PM // 22:13

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Originally Posted by Scarlett Romanov

Ugh. People are starting to fear bans over multi-launch. or running more than one client on one machine. So will that also come the ban hammer to come down?

drunkard bot, is my one and only fear.

Rocky Raccoon · May 26, 2010, 10:14 PM // 22:14

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Originally Posted by Tild

The bad thing is for ppl who just tried once a bot ...

That's liking saying but Judge it was only my first robbery.
Thank you ANET.

Garreth MacLeod · May 26, 2010, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by Coverticus

Scarlett, I use and have had BOTH accounts banned for it, it seems. Trying to get a stance too via Support. Doesn't look good though.

You had your account banned for using multi-launch? I would hardly consider that to be a bot.

FlyMoto · May 26, 2010, 10:15 PM // 22:15

Awesome!

Except 5 seconds after I went to Kamadan I just saw another spam bot (and no Dhuum pop up).

Edit: Multi-launch is a 3rd party program

Regina Buenaobra · May 26, 2010, 10:15 PM // 22:15

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Originally Posted by ElementalShadows

Will he be showing again as the days past or did ya terminate the ones that were offline too>

Those who were offline were also banned.

Atro · May 26, 2010, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

Those who were offline were also banned.

Ah ok and can you confirm the multi launch deal?

shoyon456 · May 26, 2010, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Both. I've never used a PvP bot and feel that PvE bots fit in with ArenaNet's no-grind philosophy. Or what their philosophy used to be, I guess that died around the release of EotN.

EDIT: On the positive side, now that various Guru and wikia pages are gone, my tabs in Firefox are a lot more sparse. I don't even have to scroll through them!

Good riddance. You don't need to use a bot to raptor farm like you were doing, because the grind in PvE is not required. Honestly, I'm annoyed with a lot of Anet's shenanigans regarding both GW1 AND GW2. Yet I fail how anyone would take a position in favor of someone who clearly went against the EULA... maybe you should have read it, huh?

Those who cheated were punished...finally, clear and simple. You knew you were cheating and taking this risk, if you didn't then you're a moron. Suck it up.

Anet has done a good job on this despite all my criticism of them. I especially like the inventive programming they did with Dhuum in this instance, they still have a sense of humor. Take my compliment now Anet, cause I'll be up in arms against you again starting tomorrow for some unrelated reason.

Mangione · May 26, 2010, 10:17 PM // 22:17

GOOD JOB, Arena.Net, keep on the good work!

Joe Fierce · May 26, 2010, 10:17 PM // 22:17

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

Those who were offline were also banned.

So riddle me this, please, an official stance if you would, I use multi launch on occasion to do some account transfers, and I have considered using the drunkard bot to use up all of these stacks of booze for my title, will I be banned for these actions?

hattara · May 26, 2010, 10:18 PM // 22:18

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Originally Posted by Garreth MacLeod

You had your account banned for using multi-launch?

Correction: he CLAIMS to have gotten banned for using multi-launch when addressing people who have nothing to go on but his word.

Rocky Raccoon · May 26, 2010, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by BLOODGOAT

I do not want to sound mean, but saying it "does not automatically mean it is the truth" doesn't mean you are any more right that the people who were inappropriately banned.

How do you judge inappropriate, by asking those who were banned? Do you believe what all people from the internet tell you? Computer records or someone from the internet, I'll take the records.

BLOODGOAT · May 26, 2010, 10:19 PM // 22:19

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Originally Posted by Rocky Raccoon

How do you judge inappropriate, by asking those who were banned? Do you believe what all people from the internet tell you? Computer records or someone from the internet, I'll take the records.

And I'll take the word of my good friends who wouldn't have a reason to lie about something so trivial.

Joe Fierce · May 26, 2010, 10:20 PM // 22:20

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Originally Posted by hattara

Correction: he CLAIMS to have gotten banned for using multi-launch when addressing people who have nothing to go on but his word.

Doubt is the easiest thing to instill into another person, even without a suggestive word towards it, one can instill doubt, excessive reassurance can even instill doubt. Don't be a sheeple and doubt this young man unless you know facts about him.

MisterB · May 26, 2010, 10:20 PM // 22:20

Thanks for slaying the bots. I for one do not want to be assimilated by the Borg.

Are the following still allowed?

KSMod
TexMod
Multi-Launch, or other methods of running multiple clients
Macros that are not automated
I understand that defining the line between a macro and a "bot" is rather hard to do. Example: Press "CTRL num7" to execute skill # 3 on all hero skill bars. edit: Third party software allows custom hotkeys not available in the control options menu.

Thank you.

Incidentally, I have all of those installed and my account is not banned.

EDIT: Questions answered ...

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Originally Posted by Hollygen

Taken from a conversation in Great Temple of Balthazar ongoing at the moment

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

You use third party programs at your own risk. We are not responsible if the programs you download contain content that changes the original code of that program, which may incur a ban. In its original state, programs like Multi Launch or Texmod, will not fall afoul of the banhammer, however changes to those programs, instances where people have modified the original code--there are no guarantees. We do not provide any support whatsoever for third party programs.

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Originally Posted by Regina Buenaobra

There are third party programs that we tolerate, but we don't provide any support for them whatsoever. We have not taken action on some of those third party programs because we don't feel that they provide an unfair advantage. But I have to stress: this applies to some of those programs in their original form. Players use third party programs with Guild Wars at their own risk. If those programs are modified (and maybe you won't even know about it), we make no guarantees as to whether this could incur account termination. As James said in his post, if you're in doubt, just don't use it.

Joe Fierce · May 26, 2010, 10:22 PM // 22:22

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Originally Posted by MisterB

Thanks for slaying the bots. I for one do not want to be assimilated by the Borg.

Are the following still allowed?

KSMod
TexMod
Multi-Launch, or other methods of running multiple clients
Macros that are not automated
I understand that defining the line between a macro and a "bot" is rather hard to do. Example: Press "CTRL num7" to execute skill # 3 on all hero skill bars.

Thank you.

Incidentally, I have all of those installed and my account is not banned.

Yet.... And you never will know if you will be, because they have yet to give a stance on it.

Coverticus · May 26, 2010, 10:22 PM // 22:22

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Originally Posted by hattara

Correction: he CLAIMS to have gotten banned for using multi-launch when addressing people who have nothing to go on but his word.

Yes, if you read all that I said, it SEEMS that way. Hence why I'm trying to find out from Support exactly what has happened. And yes, you can only take at face value whether I'm lying or not, hence why I didn't bother putting in something like "I don't bot..".

shoyon456 · May 26, 2010, 10:22 PM // 22:22

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Originally Posted by Zahr Dalsk

Nor is playing at all, but if you want the HoM content for GW2 (which, the way things are headed, will probably give statistical benefit), yes, you must grind.

1. HoM benefits will not be statistical.

2. You can't put your high-end crap in HoM unless you mean minis...which again will not be statistical. You do not need high-end gear to be just as effective as someone else in GW2, hence it is anti-grind.

3. Other people worked to fill their HoM's the honest way. Or are you the narcissist who thinks you deserve to get it filled the easy way where others don't?

4. People who botted like you consciously broke the rules. Get over it or go away. You're at fault, not Anet or anyone else. Anet finally did what they should have been doing.

AtomicMew · May 26, 2010, 10:22 PM // 22:22

I hate to rain on your parade, but this really does absolutely NOTHING against the worst offenders. A hardcore botter can make enough ecto to buy 10 completely clean-slate accounts before his account is even looked at. Couple this with the fact that you can run 10+ bots on one computer, and you are fighting a battle that is impossible to win.

In reality, what these bans do is lose thousands of dedicated players. I'm not justifying botting in anyway, but this is like throwing jaywalkers in prison while there are murderers out there getting off scotch free. The example you gave of banning someone's obviously main account with 3000+ hours clearly shows that this is just a public relations stunt. He botted, and profited, but he is a jaywalker, and the negative impact he has on the economy and community is a drop in the bucket compared to the the murderers that are making big bucks off of botting.

bursta91 · May 26, 2010, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by MisterB

Thanks for slaying the bots. I for one do not want to be assimilated by the Borg.

Are the following still allowed?

KSMod
TexMod
Multi-Launch, or other methods of running multiple clients
Macros that are not automated
I understand that defining the line between a macro and a "bot" is rather hard to do. Example: Press "CTRL num7" to execute skill # 3 on all hero skill bars.

Thank you.

Incidentally, I have all of those installed and my account is not banned.

i am running guild wars multi-launch and all my accounts are fine...

atm